qusiera saber si alguien aqui ha montado un 4g63 1g en un eclipse 2g y me pueda orientar un poco pues estoy considerando hacer el invento y la unica page con ufo q he encontrado es la de vfaqs.com pero no entiendo muy bien la info de ahi. Les voy a plantrear mis dudas aver como me ayudan
__________________ Tambien quisiera saber si las transmiciones y los starters de estos motores (6bolt y 7bolt) son compatibles :fino:__________________ Tu mejor alternativa es ir a dsmtuners.com y leer los forums de alli y además postear preguntas.__________________ Puedes buscar en www.roadracengineering.com ^^ ,encontraras muchas cosas utiles alli :2tu:__________________ Y otra cosa quedate con tu transmision los cambios son mas suaves con la tranny 2g que la 1g.__________________ es cierto q la tranmicon 1g es mas fuerte ??? (ambas son awd) __________________ Yo lo que si se es que la tranny 2g los cambios son mas suaves que la tranny 1g que es muy ruff.Y muchos recomiendan que si tienes un 1g le cambies la tranny por una de 2g '97 - '99 __________________ ta dificil conseguir una tranny 97-99 awdla q tengo 2g es 95 sera igual de ruff q la 1g ??? __________________ he escuchado lo de q la tranny de 1g es mas fuerte y q la de 2g coje los cambios mejor...yo creo q es mejor una de 1g y meterles cantos de www.teamrip.com  __________________ Talon boy que pasa mi hermano estas perdido.Necesito ayuda dame un call __________________ la q tengo 1g es de galant vr4 cres q sea mejor ??? auque con esta tranny estoy teniendo un problema con el starter q esgarra bien duro cuando estarteo, chequie la volanta y no se ve pela y no encuentro q es :llorando: __________________ alguien conoce alguna page donde pueda ver info de injectores dsm (colores, cc, en q carro vienen, etc) o alguien q me suministre esta infoEs q quiero saber si los unicos injectores amarillos dsm son los de 510cc ??? __________________ Una preguntitapara soltar el bloke de la tranny, ademas de los tornillos de la bancasa q mas hay q soltar ??? (es q yo nunca habia sacado un motor y estoy intentandolo) __________________ oye por q pasar tanto trabajo??se te rompio tu motor??tengo entendido q las tapas 1g tienen mas flow q las 2g,pero mas na ,por q lo kieres cambiar? ???__________________ Quote:
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En road race engineering consegui esta info. espero te ayude: DSM-GVR4 Motor and Tranny Searching For guys looking for clean used Japanese engines and transmissions here is a list of the So Cal companies and some additional nation wide locations that import them. Prices vary a lot between them, for the most part you get what you pay for. Between them all, usually two or three will have turbo motors and trannies in stock. 4G63 Motors typically go from $900 to $1400 including manifolds and turbo. Most will be 89-91 GVR-4 motors with a TDO5-14B turbo. You have a 20% chance of getting 91-93 motor with a 16G turbo. You have a 5% chance of getting a 91-93 RS version motor with the yellow bodied 510cc injectors and a Big 16G. It is very hard to tell for sure exactly what motor you will be getting. The best way to try to ascertain which it might be is to ask them to look at the turbo and the color of the injectors. TDO4 (written on the compressor housing) Tiny turbo from an Auto Tranny car. Same motor, tiny turbo and manifold. TDO5-14B: All the vanes on the compressor wheel will be the same size. Injectors will be blue (450cc). TDO5-16G: The vanes on the turbo will be alternating big/small/big/small. Injector color is still blue (450cc) Big 16G: The vanes on the turbo will be alternating big/small/big/small. Injector color is yellow (510cc) Still, you will probably be stuck with what is available. Try not to be too picky with which turbo, the condition of the motor is more important. Most will be steam cleaned somewhat, I would rather get one before they clean it up so I can better see what it's real condition was. But by looking inside the oil cap you can get a better idea of how the motor was maintained. A yellowed tint to the inner workings of the cylinder head means less oil changes. A nice clean aluminum color means more oil changes. By taking off the oil filter and cutting it open, you can gain a little knowledge of the motor condition too. Not that you can do this by phone before you buy it but if you are assertive enough when it gets dropped off you might be able to check these things before you take delivery of it. There is no "Cyclone Motor" The long blocks from Japan are the same year for year as the US motors. They will usually have the Cyclone intake manifolds on them. This is just a dual runner (similar to Toyota's TVIS system) intake manifold that gave a little better bottom end power IF you have all the electronics to properly actuate the butterfly valves. Also there are clearance issues between the Cyclone manifold and the larger US A/C compressor. Yes you can use it, but not really worth the hassle. Some manifolds will say "Cyclone" on them but not have the dual runner butterfly system. The timing belt upper covers sometimes can be slightly damaged from shipping, also the igniter or coil pack may be damaged. This usually happens in the shipping container on the boat ride from Japan. Valve covers: Most will have red valve covers, these are from a GVR-4. There are many other Mitsubishis that also used a 1G style turbo 4G63, they can have silver valve covers. As far as we have seen in person and from digging around in the CAPS parts CD, all the long blocks are the same regardless of what turbo or car they came from. They are the same as A US DSM 1G 4G63 from the same year. You still need to be aware of the differences between the early 89-92 6 Bolt Crank motors and the later 93-94 US 7 Bolt crank motors. EVO Motors: The valve covers of the EVO 1-3 motors will be a kind of titanium color. They are the same as a US 2G motor with nothing fancy. They have the smaller 2G style intake ports, a small runner intake manifold with a larger plenum and a larger throttle body than a 2G motor. Still they are hard to find. Many are from other 4G63 powered cars and can have small 13G sized turbos. They will not bolt into a 1G because there are no provisions for the front roll stopper motor mounts that bolt to the block. Everything in Japan from 94 and up has the front and rear roll stopper motor mounts on the transmission 2G Eclipse style. Many people are running around yapping about how they have an EVO motor in their car. If it bolts into a 1G, it isn't an EVO motor. When calling these guys you may have to deal with some heavy accents. We ask for "four by four" on the transmissions. "Four wheel drive" can be confused with "front wheel drive" sometimes. AWD trans go from $450-700 including transfer cases. Feel free to to try to cut a better deal if they have the motor and tranny still in one piece. They will often discount it a bit if you buy both. Be careful about what trannies you buy. In Japan they have several different final drive ratios. Anything with close ratio gears or a LSD front diff will most likely have the wrong final drive ratio. Any tranny with a strange vacuum actuator hanging off the front will be very old and has the wrong gear ratios also. There is no way to determine the mileage on these. They will always quote 40,000-60,000 but there is no way to really know. Most are very clean. They guarantee the motors and trans for 6 months and usually 6,000 miles, but just the parts and not the labor or shipping. In Japan they have very strict licensing laws and regulations which get older cars off the street at a young age. Do you really think there are 12 year old GVR4s getting scrapped with only 40,000-60,000 miles on the odometer? I don't. So Cal Importers K WATANABE 11550 Wright Road Lynwood, CA 90262 U.S.A. 888-592-3644 Fax 310-763-6429 CNS Motors 201 N. Harbor Bl Santa Ana, Ca 92703 800-429-4211 (714) 554-0661 C&T 909-923-5588 NIPPON MOTORS 12425 Eucalyptus Ave, Hawthorne, CA 90250 TEL: (310) 331-1588; Toll Free: (800) 416-3626 FAX: (310) 331-1595 SFS 562-698-4560 SKN 310-324-7788 NIC INTL 800-523-2343 SOSHIN Trade Corporation 2440 E. Firestone Blvd. South Gate, CA 90280 (800)543-2476 (CA) (800)635-1619 (USA Soken Trade Corporation 15934 S. Figueroa St. Gardena, CA 90248 (800)598-3535 (800)99SOKEN H&L 562-633-0927 Libero USA 800-717-6194 TP Automotive City of Industry, CA (626) 233-0263 Japanese Engine Land 714-484-1809 MAC 310-769-0185 Nation Wide Importers Soen Trade Corporation 475 Jersey Ave. New Brunswick, NJ 08901 (866)ENG-TRAN (866)364-8726 Soko America 11410 Melrose St. Franklin Park, IL 60131 http://www.soko.com (800)338-7656 Jemco Cary, NC (which is between Raleigh & Durham, NC http://www.jemco.com 800-445-5981 Midwest Engine Sales 14502 South Industrial Ave. Cleveland, Ohio 44137 http://www.midwest-engine.com/ 216-475-3180 / Fax 216-475-4091 800-234-1423 A-1 JDM Engines http://www.a1jdmengines.com (416) 496-9822 Rising Sun Engines, Inc 2695 Hwy 32 Chico, California 95973 http://www.risingsunengines.com (888) 660-4664 In Ca. (530) 895-0300 Japanese Used Engines http://www.japaneseusedengines.com (888) 4GO-MOTOR Infinite Motorsports http://www.infinitemotorsports.net (406) 254-1926 Motorworks Premium Used Engines and Transmissions 111 Bond Street Westbury, New York 11590 http://www.enginereplacement.com 1-866-Japan-NY 1-866-527-2669 Noyan USA 9128 Euclid Ct. Manassas, Va 20110 http://www.noyanusa.com/ (800)877-2352 Do you have an Importer that has had a 4G63 motor in the past and treated you well? If so, send me the contact info and I'll post it here. The area codes in So Cal keep changing, if any of these numbers no longer work, let me know. If anyone on this list screws you over, let me know too. Happy hunting, Mike W Contact Road///Race Engineering 13022 La Dana Ct. Santa Fe Springs, Ca. 90670 Tel (562) 777-1522 Fax (562) 777-1562  |
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1g 4g63 6 Bolt Engine In A 2g
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